I have compiled some common arguments (along with how to respond to them) from my first year of being a Protestant Christian, before I switched to Orthodox Christianity. I will be deleting my original TTT tab from my Instagram, while keeping the new Orthodox Debate version. The majority of which is going to be put here in this article.
I’ve separated it into four sections: refuting arguments against biblical teachings, refuting arguments against the bible itself, refuting arguments against heretical beliefs, and refuting miscellaneous arguments.
Arguments Against Biblical Teachings/Concepts
Q: Does the Bible condone slavery?
A: In biblical times, slavery was based off of economics; it was a matter of social status. People sold themselves as slaves when they could not pay their debts or provide for their families. Or if they wanted their master to provider their needs (somewhat similar to welfare without the government). The slavery of the last few centuries was based primarily on skin color, which is condemned in the Bible (Exodus 21:16). The point being that the slavery the Bible allowed does not resemble the racial slavery most people in today’s world infer it as. The Old Testament did allow for economic-based slavery, not forced labor.
Q: Why does God require worship?
A: He does, but not because He’s an egomaniac wanting control like Satan. God doesn’t need worship but worshiping Him is for our benefit. You can’t serve two masters, which this choice was enforced for all of humanity at the fall of humanity because of Satan and free will. God wants worship for you, Satan wants worship for himself. God wants us to be reconnected back with Him because He loves us.
Q: Why does God allow suffering?
A: “All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” (Romans 3:23). Jesus Himself lived the perfect life and He still endured suffering. This is the result of the fall of humanity, due to Satan and our choices as humanity still today. Yet humans blame God for it. You might know it as “the human condition,” unfortunately we are tied to this whether you like it or not. We have free will, if God made it so no one wold do evil that would be imposing on our free will rendering existence pointless. God doesn’t force people to love Him, its up to you. He also gives us a way out of suffering, that’s also up to you.
Q: How can there both be free will and God’s sovereign will?
A: An example would be Judas, Judas shared in the ministry and was sent out to proclaim the gospel and perform miracles (Luke 9:1-6). Judas became a traitor (Luke 6:16). “Became” suggests he wasn’t one before. The point being he had faith but not a saving faith as he turned from it. Jesus/God can foreknow Judas would do this without violating his free will to choose to do so. Calvinists often confuse predestination and foreknowledge. As Frank Turek has explained, “it’s like when you record a sports game to watch later but you already know who wins. As you’re re-watching the game, even though you know the outcome, it doesn’t change that these players are still using their free will to fight as hard as they can to win.” This is a similar concept to God.
Q: Why are Jesus and Lucifer both referred to as morning stars? Does this mean they are the same? A: There are a few layers to this. Job 38:6-7, angels/divine beings in general are referred to as morning stars. Lucifer is a fallen angel so yes he is “A” morning star, Jesus distinguishes Himself as “THE BRIGHT” morning star in Revelation. Correlation doesn’t equal significance, they’re both referred to as lions too in different ways. Satan is an imitator, he’s going to literally pretend to be the messiah and will deceive many. Lucifer pretends to be God, Jesus is God. Going deeper, if we use the Septuagint (what the apostles used) we see that it says “when the stars were made” instead of “when the morning stars sang together.” Indicating morning stars singing together might not necessarily be the correct context.
Arguments Against The Bible Itself
Q: The Bible is not a reliable text, it has been rewritten many times.
A: There are minor differences in various copies of the scriptures, but identifying what these minor differences are is extremely important. They are simply spelling variants (example akin to the spelling of neighbor to neighbour from American to British), reversed words such as Jesus Christ to Christ Jesus, or an easily identified missing word in a verse. And how much of the Bible do these differences account for? 1 percent.
Overall, 99 percent of the biblical text is not in question, of this 1 percent not one doctrinal command or teaching is jeopardized. If you believe this is incorrect, I would ask you to show me what teaching or command is changed from one version to another (because you won’t find one). The copies of the Bible are pure, for example – scripture dating to the 14th century are practically identical to ones dating to the 3rd century. There’s 5,800 Greek manuscripts that confirm the Bible, 23,000 total manuscripts, 36,000 patristic quotations from church fathers of the Bible (through the 4th century), 1 million through the 13th century. 2.6 million pages of New Testament manuscripts, making the Bible easily the most preserved book in the history of humanity. Nothing else even comes close.
Q: The Bible and Christianity copied the Sumerians and the Emerald Tablets.
A: The Emerald Tablets are an Arabic text written 500-800 years after Christ walked the earth, so that logically doesn’t follow (Source: Balinas). As for the Sumerian origin stories, yes there are similarities in SOME instances, but MANY cultures have a similar mythology (example: the great flood). In fact, there’s much more differences than similarities, here are some examples: 1) Sumerian culture was not monotheistic, they had personal gods. 2) They saw the world as born from ‘cosmic births’ and not created by God. 3) They believed heaven was only reserved for gods and no mortal could ever go there when they died. 4) They believed a person’s actions don’t have any effect on their afterlife, they had a vastly different viewpoint of the world and man’s place in it. If the apostles copied the Sumerians, they did a pretty terrible job of doing so.
Q: The Bible is actually esoteric literature encoded for only the few to understand.
A: Implying the Bible is esoteric literature which has hidden knowledge only a select few are able to understand is also to imply that every other scholar, theologian, believer, and skeptic have been totally ignorant of all possibilities. Biblically it has no ground to stand on from the fact that the major aspect of the gospel is it’s accessibility to ALL people, regardless of knowledge or experience (Matthew 11:25). Gnostics claim special insight, as do other new age “spiritualists” but rarely do they actually have any examples of what this “insight” is. The Bible does allude to mysteries but there are no obscured, hidden keys to God caught in a complicated set of formulas in scripture.
Q: Isn’t the Bible based on astronomy and zodiac signs?
A: The Bible condemns the occult, divination, etc many times (Daniel 4:7, Leviticus 19:31, Isaiah 43:13-14, Deuteronomy 4:19). The Bible is not based on something it condemns, and would not make coherent sense to be an astrological allegory.
Q: The Piso Family wrote the New Testament.
A: This is a bizarre assertion referencing “Arrius Piso” who actually has zero evidence of even existing. This person (some attribute to Flavius Josephus) shows up nowhere in Roman history, Latin studies, or in any type of serious scholarship. How then does a non-existent person write the New Testament?
Arguments Against Heretical Views of Christianity
Q: Jesus is a sun god copy of Horus.
A: This is a common statement spread from a false documentary called Zeitgeist which has been debunked many times. Jesus is not Horus, and certainly wasn’t plagiarized from him. 1) Horus was not conceived of a virgin, Jesus was. 2) Horus had 4 disciples, Jesus had 12. 3) Horus was never baptized, Jesus was. 4) Horus was never crucified, Jesus was, and in fact the overwhelming majority of Egyptian stories of Horus don’t have him dying at all. 5) Horus is a sun god, Jesus is the son of THE only true God. You can easily search “Zeitgeist debunked” and find many more examples of their differences.
Q: Modalists defend their view saying Peter baptizes in the name of Jesus Christ in Acts 2:38, how do you disprove this?
A: This is actually done 4 times (Acts 2:38, 8:16, 10:48, 19:5). These four instances are not to be considered a contradiction or substitution for Jesus’s divine command of, “make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit” (Matthew 28:19). What Jesus does is greater than what Peter does.
Furthermore, the phrase baptized in the name of Jesus is simply distinguishing the true baptism from the false baptisms of the pagans, Jews, and Mithraism that were prevalent at that time. Modalism is an attack on the nature of God. Peter in Acts 2:38 is specifically talking to Jews, and the emphasis of baptizing in Jesus name is because that’s the messiah they are rejecting. The ‘aspect’ of God they reject.
Q: There’s nothing wrong with Gnostic Christianity, everyone has a divine spark within them. A: Christianity and Gnosticism are mutually exclusive belief systems, the principles of Gnosticism contradict what it means to be a Christian. While there is some biblical truth to an IDEA of a divine spark (Ecclesiastes 3:11), the concept Gnosticism promotes is certainly NOT biblical. The light of God is not trapped within every man, only a person redeemed by Christ can truly connect with God and have light. Without the messiah, there is no ‘divine spark.’ The Bible also says the opposite of a concept of light within every man, such as 2 Corinthians 6:14 and Isaiah 8:20.
Q: What’s wrong with Shekinah and viewing God as feminine?
A: God is not subjected to any kind of human limitations, yes. The point being God has revealed Himself to mankind as a male. Jesus refers to God as “the Father” almost 160 times in the Bible. Jesus Himself came in the flesh of a man. Satan inverts, and wants to elevate female over male, which Satan is using ‘divine feminine’ to try to do this.
Q: Worshiping Jesus is idol worship.
A: From the beginning of Jesus’s earthly life, He was worshiped. Because He is God, part of the Holy Trinity. As soon as the Magi laid eyes on the infant Christ, “they bowed down and worshiped Him.” (Matthew 2:11). Hebrews 1:6, “Let all God’s angels worship Him.” Jesus is the exact imprint of God’s nature (Hebrews 1:3), Jesus also never stopped worship of Him in scripture for the things I just cited.
Q: Can a Christian also be a freemason?
A: No, freemasonry allows all religions and beliefs to fall under the umbrella of a “grand architect.” You cannot serve two masters. Christians believe in one God only, in Holy Trinity, the freemason lodge does not reflect this. Not to mention freemasonry has historically always been the enemy of Christianity.
Q: Jesus was ________ (insert skin color, ethnicity, etc).
A: While there are countless references to Jesus being Jewish as this was His heritage, the Bible provides very little description of what He looked like. If Jesus’s skin color and complexion were important, it would’ve been mentioned by the apostles. AKA who cares what He looked like, it matters what He taught, and that we follow Him.
Q: Every depiction of Jesus is just Cesare Borgia.
A: This is a nonsensical conspiracy theory floating around among the fake woke that is easily debunked. Upon a quick research you can find Cesare Borgia was born in 1475, and the vast majority of depictions/icons of Christ are from many, many centuries before that.
Q: The name Jesus actually means Earth Pig.
A: This is also a ridiculous assertion, it comes from the claim that “Je” in Latin means earth and “Sus” in Latin means pig. Except the Latin form of Jesus is actually “Iesus” making the claim self-defeating from the start. Even more so that there is no “Je” in Latin, and while “Sus” does mean pig – claiming that three letters of a name or word can be broken off into a definition would also mean the 650+ words containing “Sus” also all apply to a pig in some manner.